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		<title>By: Mack Balchunas</title>
		<link>http://www.nivas.hr/blog/2009/08/12/why-the-ie6-will-not-die/comment-page-1/#comment-706578</link>
		<dc:creator>Mack Balchunas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 03:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, I will be sure to bookmark this in my Clipmarks account. Have a awesome evening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, I will be sure to bookmark this in my Clipmarks account. Have a awesome evening.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.nivas.hr/blog/2009/08/12/why-the-ie6-will-not-die/comment-page-1/#comment-689058</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 23:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually in my opinion ie has been better than firefox for more than a year... i dont know why everyones just saying ff is better...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually in my opinion ie has been better than firefox for more than a year&#8230; i dont know why everyones just saying ff is better&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bling bling nivas.hr blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google Chrome Frame</title>
		<link>http://www.nivas.hr/blog/2009/08/12/why-the-ie6-will-not-die/comment-page-1/#comment-670119</link>
		<dc:creator>bling bling nivas.hr blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google Chrome Frame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 08:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You see, the main reason for people staying on IE6 is that they work in a corporation where IT administrators locked the possibility of installing new software, or there is a global corporate policy that specifically says: &quot;Browsers on computers will be IE6&quot;. Second reason is that people are just not tech-aware and are just afraid to install new software or just do not know how (we, the power users, really take some knowledge for granted - YES it is really hard to install new software if you are someone who uses computer 30 minutes per month). Third reason people do not switch form IE6/7 is that the developers keep supporting those platforms. I talked about that in previous post. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] You see, the main reason for people staying on IE6 is that they work in a corporation where IT administrators locked the possibility of installing new software, or there is a global corporate policy that specifically says: &quot;Browsers on computers will be IE6&quot;. Second reason is that people are just not tech-aware and are just afraid to install new software or just do not know how (we, the power users, really take some knowledge for granted &#8211; YES it is really hard to install new software if you are someone who uses computer 30 minutes per month). Third reason people do not switch form IE6/7 is that the developers keep supporting those platforms. I talked about that in previous post. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: seven</title>
		<link>http://www.nivas.hr/blog/2009/08/12/why-the-ie6-will-not-die/comment-page-1/#comment-669951</link>
		<dc:creator>seven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok check this out - http://blog.chromium.org/2009/09/introducing-google-chrome-frame.html

Google built plugin for Internet Explorer which integrates chrome into it. Google hates IE so much, it decided to help MS for free. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok check this out &#8211; <a href="http://blog.chromium.org/2009/09/introducing-google-chrome-frame.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.chromium.org/2009/09/introducing-google-chrome-frame.html</a></p>
<p>Google built plugin for Internet Explorer which integrates chrome into it. Google hates IE so much, it decided to help MS for free. :)</p>
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		<title>By: deb</title>
		<link>http://www.nivas.hr/blog/2009/08/12/why-the-ie6-will-not-die/comment-page-1/#comment-667036</link>
		<dc:creator>deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well i can speak for myself, i will not be supporting IE6 for client works starting 1st January 2010.

Actually i thought to implement this starting of 2009 but that felt early. But 2010 is high time we do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well i can speak for myself, i will not be supporting IE6 for client works starting 1st January 2010.</p>
<p>Actually i thought to implement this starting of 2009 but that felt early. But 2010 is high time we do this.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Andrews</title>
		<link>http://www.nivas.hr/blog/2009/08/12/why-the-ie6-will-not-die/comment-page-1/#comment-664174</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work for one of the &quot;big 3&quot; web design companies in Malta. We&#039;ve just taken the same route as web.burza and discontinued standard support for IE6. No longer do we have to deal with the &#039;hackz&#039; just to get a website to look the same. No more PNGFIX (well we&#039;ll still use it cos it&#039;s not like it does any harm)!

In the next couple of weeks we&#039;ll be launching our largest website so far, with full &#039;We hate IE6&#039; support :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for one of the &#8220;big 3&#8243; web design companies in Malta. We&#8217;ve just taken the same route as web.burza and discontinued standard support for IE6. No longer do we have to deal with the &#8216;hackz&#8217; just to get a website to look the same. No more PNGFIX (well we&#8217;ll still use it cos it&#8217;s not like it does any harm)!</p>
<p>In the next couple of weeks we&#8217;ll be launching our largest website so far, with full &#8216;We hate IE6&#8242; support :)</p>
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		<title>By: macfoto</title>
		<link>http://www.nivas.hr/blog/2009/08/12/why-the-ie6-will-not-die/comment-page-1/#comment-663940</link>
		<dc:creator>macfoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>huey?! many, many…too many years there were too many windows-fanbois argumented against the freedom of choice-…aginst firefox, safari,opera (the real standard!).
IE6 are standard? what? remember the brother wright…&quot;sorry, biplanes are standard. we won&#039;t develop any new one!&quot;.
if any company  says, we&#039;re online with IE6, they&#039;re not really online. for these companies, the web isn&#039;t any business…and that companies are NOT our business (because they don&#039;t spend money for any)!!
KILL IE6!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huey?! many, many…too many years there were too many windows-fanbois argumented against the freedom of choice-…aginst firefox, safari,opera (the real standard!).<br />
IE6 are standard? what? remember the brother wright…&#8221;sorry, biplanes are standard. we won&#8217;t develop any new one!&#8221;.<br />
if any company  says, we&#8217;re online with IE6, they&#8217;re not really online. for these companies, the web isn&#8217;t any business…and that companies are NOT our business (because they don&#8217;t spend money for any)!!<br />
KILL IE6!</p>
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		<title>By: seven</title>
		<link>http://www.nivas.hr/blog/2009/08/12/why-the-ie6-will-not-die/comment-page-1/#comment-663436</link>
		<dc:creator>seven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL! I want this on my bumpersticker: &quot;Time travel is expensive!&quot; :)

BTW, this is how IE6 will die - http://twitpic.com/dpu5z :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL! I want this on my bumpersticker: &#8220;Time travel is expensive!&#8221; :)</p>
<p>BTW, this is how IE6 will die &#8211; <a href="http://twitpic.com/dpu5z" rel="nofollow">http://twitpic.com/dpu5z</a> :)</p>
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		<title>By: Gjurassic</title>
		<link>http://www.nivas.hr/blog/2009/08/12/why-the-ie6-will-not-die/comment-page-1/#comment-663435</link>
		<dc:creator>Gjurassic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since we are all working in the consumer oriented market, there is really no point in approaching this problem from a product point of view. 

The solution would be to transfer the responsibility to clients, and make them decide (provided they have all the necessary info) about how they want to treat their users/consumers. The fact remains that optimizing for IE6 is a big production problem, and raises the cost of the final product.

The cost /time needed for optimization should be calculated by each client separately, depending on their target. This way we could lower the cost for those who have no interest in supporting my grandmas old PC, and still offer the service to those that depend on it (governments, education, etc..).

Need to upgrade your computer? You’ll find the older RAM chips are more expensive than new ones.

Why? Because time travel is expensive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since we are all working in the consumer oriented market, there is really no point in approaching this problem from a product point of view. </p>
<p>The solution would be to transfer the responsibility to clients, and make them decide (provided they have all the necessary info) about how they want to treat their users/consumers. The fact remains that optimizing for IE6 is a big production problem, and raises the cost of the final product.</p>
<p>The cost /time needed for optimization should be calculated by each client separately, depending on their target. This way we could lower the cost for those who have no interest in supporting my grandmas old PC, and still offer the service to those that depend on it (governments, education, etc..).</p>
<p>Need to upgrade your computer? You’ll find the older RAM chips are more expensive than new ones.</p>
<p>Why? Because time travel is expensive!</p>
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		<title>By: seven</title>
		<link>http://www.nivas.hr/blog/2009/08/12/why-the-ie6-will-not-die/comment-page-1/#comment-663433</link>
		<dc:creator>seven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couple of weeks ago, I had a chat with one large corporate client of ours regarding IE6 support for current project we have been working on for them. It turns out that their whole worldwide corporation still uses IE6 without any plans to upgrade any time soon.

Alongside that project, I talked to the client about doing some Facebook promotion, and client told me that FB campaign wont work for them because they all are banned from using Facebook. I thought &quot;Nice, corporate policy is against employies loosing time on Facebook, I like that!&quot;. I guessed that they banned facebook with some sort of traffic management filtering device. Nor I, not my contact was not aware that Facebook is blocking IE6. 

So my conclusion was - corporate (business) users don&#039;t have time to think why some site doesn&#039;t work (is it due to their company internet access security policy or site stopped supporting that particular browser they are using).

By removing IE6 support, you will lose those visitors and if you target those particular visitor segment, your project will fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple of weeks ago, I had a chat with one large corporate client of ours regarding IE6 support for current project we have been working on for them. It turns out that their whole worldwide corporation still uses IE6 without any plans to upgrade any time soon.</p>
<p>Alongside that project, I talked to the client about doing some Facebook promotion, and client told me that FB campaign wont work for them because they all are banned from using Facebook. I thought &#8220;Nice, corporate policy is against employies loosing time on Facebook, I like that!&#8221;. I guessed that they banned facebook with some sort of traffic management filtering device. Nor I, not my contact was not aware that Facebook is blocking IE6. </p>
<p>So my conclusion was &#8211; corporate (business) users don&#8217;t have time to think why some site doesn&#8217;t work (is it due to their company internet access security policy or site stopped supporting that particular browser they are using).</p>
<p>By removing IE6 support, you will lose those visitors and if you target those particular visitor segment, your project will fail.</p>
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		<title>By: Daemon</title>
		<link>http://www.nivas.hr/blog/2009/08/12/why-the-ie6-will-not-die/comment-page-1/#comment-663426</link>
		<dc:creator>Daemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Orta: yes, exactly, by not seeing the site the user would be forced to somehow install new browser. Either by himself, or by asking administrator to do it.

Also, Digg will drop support for fancy functionality for IE6 users. They will be able to browse the site, but will not be able to log in and to do anything &quot;complex&quot;.

Furthermore, the IE6 population is only ( &quot;only&quot; ) 10% of the overall Digg population. Even if Digg TOTALLY blocks IE6 users out by giving them the blank screen and &quot;upgrade your browser&quot; message they would not lose that much. Next, IE6 population does only less than 2% of Digg activity - Digging, Burying and Commenting. LESS THAN 2%!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orta: yes, exactly, by not seeing the site the user would be forced to somehow install new browser. Either by himself, or by asking administrator to do it.</p>
<p>Also, Digg will drop support for fancy functionality for IE6 users. They will be able to browse the site, but will not be able to log in and to do anything &#8220;complex&#8221;.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the IE6 population is only ( &#8220;only&#8221; ) 10% of the overall Digg population. Even if Digg TOTALLY blocks IE6 users out by giving them the blank screen and &#8220;upgrade your browser&#8221; message they would not lose that much. Next, IE6 population does only less than 2% of Digg activity &#8211; Digging, Burying and Commenting. LESS THAN 2%!</p>
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		<title>By: orta</title>
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		<dc:creator>orta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://blog.digg.com/?p=878

Most IE6 users don&#039;t have a choice in using IE6. All you would do in not even supporting them is ask the user to use a good browser when they get home from work or to not see your site at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blog.digg.com/?p=878" rel="nofollow">http://blog.digg.com/?p=878</a></p>
<p>Most IE6 users don&#8217;t have a choice in using IE6. All you would do in not even supporting them is ask the user to use a good browser when they get home from work or to not see your site at all.</p>
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